👋 Hello Product Hunt
This is my first time here as a Hunter/Maker so be gentle.
I've been a designer in large organisations for many years now which has been great but I've been missing out on the value that I see so many others get from side-projects so I wanted to start my own. This is the first of many (I hope).
Be a Deletist: is something that is relevant to me (and others) right now considering the increasing appearance of data breaches in the media. I have been on a quest to reduce my own digital data footprint and ultimately make more time for the things that matter.
I wasn't sure how crazy to go with this product. I have lots of ideas but I wanted to get feedback from others first. Right now, it's a big content dump which might be OK if it's enough to solve the problem.
The problem: people are unsure of exactly how to go about protecting themselves online, downloading their data and confidently deleting accounts. This is intended to be a series of advice and guides on how to do that.
Well, this was a worthwhile experiment 😂
I spend my day job focusing on prototypes, MVPs and starting with user needs. I should really practice what I preach.
I’ll put the hours spent to experience and at least the domain only cost me 83p.
@charles_rt The instructions for Reddit should note that once you delete your account, it's impossible to then delete the posts & comments made by that account. Even though those posts & comments will become attributed to "deleted", they may contain text that accidentally reveals the original author.
@mattthew good shout. I will update the content to include this.
Wow 🙂 today has been a much better outcome. Thank you Product Hunters 🙏
Yesterday, I was ready to give up after getting only 2 upvotes in 24 hours (and I’m pretty sure you get the first one for free 😂).
I do have some genuine questions for feedback. Please spread the word so I can learn and make it better:
* What works, what doesn't?
* Is the raw UI too abstract? Should I have been more conservative? Does it matter?
* I thought this was a topical subject. Am I trying to help solve a problem that doesn't exist?
* What ways could I have prototyped or created an MVP for this specific thing faster that would have let me know I was on the wrong track sooner?
@charles_rt Couple of random thoughts since you're asking
- I'd lose any inferences about objectives of tracking (nefarious or otherwise), there're so many reasons people collect data, to sum it all up as "for advertising" seems a bit generalised. - The 150x a day then leading to the assertion that "these things are designed to be addictive" seems a bit melodramatic, if you're checking email notifications on your phone you're not being exposed to adverts. A large part of the "addiction" seems to be quite practical: phones are still primarily a communication tool after all and collaboration/socialising is a very human/normal activity. Phones just happen to be the tool of choice right now. Would recommend either losing the opinions or backing them up with some sources
- The CTAs are a bit lost - is the point of the page to get people to participate/engage with the provided resources, to grow a brand or to spread a doctrine? The site does reasonably well at playing on the current concerns around control of data and privacy but as the media hype dies down you'll likely lose your virality so if you're looking to retain some value from the current surge in traffic or build this into anything more than a transient circle-jerk you seem to have two main options:
1) Harvest some data from users (e.g. an email newsletter) - this could be problematic for obvious reasons given the narrative of the site
2) Focus on brand building: lose the "me", "I"s from the page and try to tie your brand to the ideology of privacy etc - this could open some opportunities to sell stickers and other things that might generate some nice little revenue streams
3) build a tool that automatically deletes/processes delete requests for the major social platforms - and monetize it somehow maybe?
@calvers7 Thanks, Calvin. This is all useful as I haven’t considered any of it yet. I’m not entirely sure what I want this to be or if I want anything out of it.
Right now, I don’t think I do want anything out of it except to create something that people find useful and I can learn from the experience. Self-gratification is what I’m after then :)
A lot of the fat needs cutting which I’ll look at. Giving it an iteration tonight.
@charles_rt @calvers7 been trying to do it for some time and this is actually ( contrary to what zuckMan says ) very very HARD to do
@calvers7 @vasco_barbosa Hard process, or hard letting go?
@calvers7 @charles_rt process, letting go its easy, go to.ur timeline and delete a post ... U have 3 popups ( at least ) with options to click
@calvers7 @vasco_barbosa You’re so right. The fact that the link to *actually* delete your account fully (not just deactivate) is hidden from their support site says it all.
@calvers7 @charles_rt but today, 1/2 of my accounts are facebook logged and my friends are on messenger... it sucks but ZuckerMan got us dependent on the platform... So I deleted everything and keep the account for company website, third party login ( wich I am gradually fixing ) and messenger
@calvers7 @vasco_barbosa Yes! I need to elaborate on the third-party app authentication. That took a while to ensure I’d migrated my logins for apps I wanted to keep. Definite pain point.
Useful tool, @charles_rt. How are you choosing which platforms to support/document?
@rrhoover Thanks, Ryan. Always impressed with the amount of time you give to this community.
Right now, all the content is based on my own person experiences as I’m becoming somewhat of a Deletist myself.
Great job!! This is very useful for privacy related matters. Good luck 😊
@ayush_chandra Thanks, Ayush. It might need a bit of tweaking to focus more on the useful privacy tips and less on my bloggy rants 😂
Website is down.....Server must be getting slammed
@metalhaze Looks like it’s all good now. Fingers crossed 🤞
@charles_rt Looks good here! Thanks!
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Made some quick style changes based on feedback received to increase readability. I'm getting straight to the point on the delete guides by keeping my bloggy rants on Medium.
Another quick iteration coming soon to give even more focus on what to do on the homepage and possible change to a lighter UI.
@charles_rt Do you still use Google services? If not, what do you use for your calendar, docs, contacts, etc.?
@donte_ll Firstly I separate work me from personal me.
Work me has to use certain software and that’s OK because it’s work me and I’m getting paid for it.
Personal me doesn’t use traditional docs software. I use Bear for all writing and Keynote if I need to do a presentation. For contacts, calendars, etc I use Apple. I realise this will spark some debate of Apple vs Google.
I’m OK with Apple having my data. Right now, they are transparent with privacy and data. I get a lot of value out of Apple. It’s a choice I’ve made and by keeping everything is one place it has added benefits, I’ve reduced my digital footprint and I can focus more.
If people get a lot of value out of google and their products that’s great too. Keep google. If you get value out of something, keep it. Delete the excess.
Need of the hour.
Hey, Product Hunt!
I've just spent the past couple of hours redesigning the style and rethinking the content based on feedback received. I have thought about a clearer identity I can build upon and tone of voice that is less blog/ranty (I'll save that for Medium 😉).
Also, I've updated the product details here on PH with a snazzy new GIF for the thumbnail (since they're all the rage here 🙂) and new screenshots in the gallery. I should have put more thought into this initially.
I have found using PH a really valuable experience and appreciate all the feedback given so far on something that was potentially a throwaway side project. Let me know how the new design works for you. I'll write a Medium post about this experience soon so keep an eye out.
The title of this post https://i.imgur.com/ksvnWwD.jpg
[Deletist update] Added more style and content including a guide on how to Delete Twitter. Become a Deletist. Sign up for the newsletter and join the conversation.
@charles_rt. Awesome work, this has the potential to help a lot of people and make them privacy conscious.