I love working for a mission-driven company during these times! I would love to hear from you if you think O.school Originals will help move sexual wellness conversations forward for ourselves and the next generation.
@kellyireland I don't think it will, first because it's partly inaccurate (the article about the orgasm gap is a good example of that).
Oh, and if the goal is to help teenagers to learn about their body, safe sex and all, I think your overly inclusive language is not going to help. "People with vulvas" is dehumanizing, I don't think many people would feel specifically included.
@kellyireland Me too! The fact that Swann is able to say they disagree with the accuracy of the orgasm gap article is proof that O.School is already moving sexual wellness conversations forward - we wouldn’t have had that beginning of a conversation without it. And I’m confident there will be many more. Regarding the inclusive language, as we’ve learned at Mogul, it’s just the right thing to do and I love that you all combined it with sexual wellness, since the lack of it has left out a lot of people from being able to participate in such fundamental conversations. Great work team!
@kellyireland @soueuls I actually thought that the expression "people with vulvas" was a really simple way to be as inclusive as possible. Bravo.
Rather than being dehumanizing, I thought it included all humans with vulvas, however they choose to refer to themselves in any other way.
@kellyireland @david_pham2 I disagree with the premises of it, anyone studying historical human promiscuity will know that males orgasm (ejaculate) quicker, simply because we have evolved from multi-male/multi-female societies, in this context, quick ejaculation is the rational thing to do if you want to be able to impregnate females, reproduce and make your genes propagate.
it's a well known thing, it's corroborated by our testicules's outside position and size too.
So while I don't deny the orgasm gap, I just find the explanations inaccurate at best.
@kellyireland @andreasduess Yes, it's typical from your group defending inclusiveness at all cost, you refuse to see that some people (some women in this context) feel completely excluded.
I am sure of it because if you have followed the recent Ireland abortion law which used "pregnant people" instead of "pregnant women", some women who invested hundreds of hours into this fight felt completely excluded from the debate because of this exact specific wording.
So no, it's not a "simple way to be as inclusive as possible", it's a way to dehumanize the fact that only women are able to reproduce, and it's basically the case for the whole animal kingdom minus a few exceptions something even a 5 years old is able to understand.
@kellyireland it's an excellent product and desperately needed. and I very much agree with @david_pham2 and @andreasduess, the inclusive language is a big plus.
@soueuls it's true, anti-trans bigots feel excluded by this kind inclusive language. On the other hand, O.school's prioritizing trans and non-binary people - and allies - who feel included; and taking the opportunity to do some education. Sounds like the right tradeoff to me!
@jdp23 For the vast majority of people, this language is actually exclusive, not inclusive. You are alienating woman's nature and rights.
I have seen so called "inclusive parents" completely ruining their children's life because they are so eager to push down their gender theory agenda that the kids are literally overwhelmed by trans, queer, LGBT, consent, safe-space and such concepts that they just forget how to play.
You are just blinded by your own propaganda, we are talking about sexual education here and you bring gender onto the table, there is no bigotry behind the evidence that "vulva is the sexual organe of women".
As for bigotry in general, I have never seen more intolerant people than the LGBT community actually, very intolerant people who push for female only space, who push for no-white zone, who deny the right of straight white male to have an opinion, extremely fascist and intolerant.
I am still happy I live in a society where I can put my children in a different school than your, where they can keep an ounce of innocence without too much propaganda (yes "gender theory" is not a theory, there are absolutely no scientific evidence behind it) at such a young age.
@jdp23 @soueuls Thanks for joining the conversation. These concepts may be new for many people, and that's why we're excited to talk about it. Our mission is to get people talking openly about sexuality and feel less shame and less pressured to fit certain labels. Gender is actually not determined by genitals -- it is very much a social construct that we have all grown very accustomed to and rarely questioned in society for most of history. Not all women have vulvas, and not all men have penises. The most precise language we can use when talking about sexual organs is "people with penises" or "clit owners".
@jdp23 @abarrica1 You are perfectly demonstrating that "not all men have penises and not all women have vulvas" is NOT equivalent to "men can have vulvas and women can have penises"
Because in term of logic: person with vulva -> person is a woman
person with a penis -> person is a man
You are presenting a sexual education website while using a gender-centric vocabulary.
I would definitely forbid my kids from learning sex safety from your website as it's more focused on gender propaganda than providing accurate biological knowledge while pretending to talk about biology.
@abarrica1 as this conversation illustrates, some people just don't want to learn. Fortunately the Swanns of the world are in a steadily-decreasing minority!
@abarrica1 @jdp23 I try my best to learn accurate information and I demonstrated that the reasons provided to explain the orgasm gap are wrong. I don't think I really need to show that only women are able to reproduce, I refuse to lower my rhetoric to that point. 2010-2018 is sure gonna be called the dark ages.
@kellyireland I disagree, @soueuls Being transsexual and not being included in the vulva conversation is dehumanizing. Excuse me, if you do have a vulva, but please let the vulva-bearers speak for themselves. O.School has made me feel more human compared to countless communities who make my experience invisible and/or freak-show-esque.
@kellyireland @milcah_halili I have seen enough shitstorm over the #repealthe8th twitter threads to know that you are not inclusive, you are even doing a bad job at pretending you are.
You are dehumanizing women who fought for the right to abortion by calling them TERF.
Very nasty, if you want to see a glimpse of it just search for "#repealthe8th terf" on twitter, some women even lost of their job and got harassed because of it.
So please, don't talk about being inclusive. You are denying biology, some of you are completely hysterical, the only thing I am fighting for is for my kids to not end up in the same school as yours, so they can learn proper science, not complete garbage like gender theory (without any serious science to back it up) nor they would learn that "men too can get pregnant"
As long as ours kids are well separated, I am fine with your point of view. But I will pass on your version of "inclusiveness" as I consider it to be as exclusive as it's possible to be, and the perfect demonstration of intellectual fascism and nihilism.
Obviously, I want me kids to get a proper sexual education, that's why I try to avoid propaganda.
Hi Product Hunt!
We're so excited to share our O.school Originals with you. There's a real lack of resources and brands between Planned Parenthood and Pornhub, and we wanted to create the sexual health information that we all should have had. We're sharing these videos, with custom animations and gifs, to the world at https://o.school/media - so please feel free to share with parents, teachers, professors, sex educators, and anyone who wants to learn more about their bodies.
We would love to hear your feedback!
@abarrica1 I love the project and they way its written. But where are the GIFs?? You should build a separate library of GIFs so people can easily share.
@federicojorge They are on the article pages and downloadable on the /media page - but you are right. Thank you for the feedback! We are working to get them on Giphy, too, to make them easy to share! We need more gifs and ways of talking about pleasure!
@abarrica1 yes, yes, yes. GIFs are fun and it could be a cheeky way to spread the voice and educate. Good luck with the project!
@abarrica1 can you launch an iOS keyboard with those GIFs?
Love the idea and how it's realised. Interesting and very high quality content, dives pretty deep into the topics. Sadly sex ed is largely ignored, and I'm glad to see you guys doing something to change that with such a great project.
@chelobaka Thanks a bunch, Ivan. We did try to explore the topics in detail! So much to learn about the clitoris :D
Congrats on the launch! The world is in desperate need of a resource like this. Proud to be a supporter 😄
@iamjakestream Proud to have you as a supporter, Jake. Everyone should have access to good information about sex.
What's been the most surprising thing for people to learn in the journey to cliteracy?
@mattellsworth most people, clit owners or not, are never taught the full structure of the clitoris, and most clit owners don't realize there's an internal structure of legs and bulbs, full of nerve endings, that fills with blood, much like nipples and penis. 70%+ of all people will vulvas need or prefer external clitoral stimulation to reach orgasm!
Hi thanks for making a product like this. It is awesome, just because this is the things we just can't ask someone but are worrisome.
Lists details about O, and can ask sexual discourse related question without any worry.
- without platform people feel separated, or altogether burden their minds.
- Best ways to approach sex, were just listed.
Are you planning to support men too, anytime soon?
@janardhan we're so glad you think it's awesome. These topics can be hard to talk about, and we love being non-judgmental resources. Thank you so much for checking it out! We do support men, as well, especially those who want to learn about clits and different ways of thinking about pleasure. We will have more penis anatomy content soon, as well as hundreds of other topics as we grow. We also worked with Men's Health to make these gifs for men to use during sexting: https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a23508435/how-to-sext/
Congrats Andrea and team! What was the most surprising thing you learned while putting this together, or most surprising thing people will learn from it?
@eriktorenberg someone saw our O.riginal video about the Clitoris and told us they were taught the clitoris is the "devil's doorbell"... people are often shocked at how much there is to learn and unlearn about sex throughout our whole lives and how little the average person knows about sex. Learning about sex & pleasure is different than learning other skills like coding or world history, because people can be ashamed of things they don't know and resistant to learning, and because so much of our perspectives about sex are influenced by movies or porn. It's sometimes more about unlearning inaccurate information or assumptions that don't lead to healthy attitudes about sex than just gaining new information.
In LOVE with O.school originals and O.school in general. Everything about this idea screams game changer. So excited to see more every day. The world needs this right now.
@jacqueline_miskanic the game needs changing, and we agree - the world couldn't need more information about sex, pleasure, consent, and relationships right now! We need to do better for the next generation
Wow very clean. What tech did you use for the backend and frontend?
Some backends prefer silicone lube while frontends can prefer vibration, air suction tech, and more. Unless you mean Webflow.
@abarrica1 Best. Reply. Ever. 👏👏👏
Love the interactive, involved, inclusive sex ed. Would love a world where parents and schools could talk about sexuality and sexual health without fear, shame or embarrassment. Would love an internet where basic searches don't turn up Urban Dictionary or porn. Would love a world where teaching sexuality and gender wouldn't be controversial. But we're not likely to get it anytime soon. Brava to O.school for stepping up to the task.
@mike_stabile Agreed teaching about bodies and sexuality shouldn't be controversial...and god bless Urban Dictionary. We have so much work to do <3
I love the breadth of topics around sexuality, it fills a massive gap in most people's sexual educations. The direct, honest and shame-free way in which the community delivery myth-busting information and tips.
@sapphire_ketchup we can't wait to add even more topics and serve more people! Thank you for checking it out!
Abel A. Hernandez
We need this! The discussion about consent needs to be had everyday until we all understand it.
@abelpm_la everyday, agreed. Thanks Abel, super appreciate that you checked it out.
Why use the term 'Sexual Wellness?' Nothing to do with wellness but self gratification!